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Council Meetings (Question): Theft of Dangerous Chemicals From University Laboratories (2019.12.11)

MR CHAN KIN-POR (in Cantonese): President, it has been reported that the laboratories of the Chinese University of Hong Kong (“CUHK”) and two other universities were intruded into one after the other by radical demonstrators last month, and some dangerous chemicals therein were stolen. The poisonous and dangerous chemicals stolen from CUHK include 17.5 litres of concentrated sulphuric acid, 2.5 litres of hexane, as well as 80 litres of concentrated nitric acid that may be used for making 10 000 acid bombs. If radical demonstrators use weapons made from such chemicals at demonstrations, the lives and safety of police officers and members of the public will be seriously threatened. In this connection, will the Government inform this Council:

(1) whether it knows the total quantities of chemicals stolen from the various universities since June this year, and the quantities of lethal weapons that may be made from such chemicals;

(2) why CUHK’s laboratories were allowed to store such large quantities of dangerous chemicals; of the legislation currently in place to regulate the storage of dangerous chemicals in various university laboratories; whether the Government will require the various universities to strengthen the security measures at their laboratories, so as to prevent dangerous chemicals from being stolen again; and

(3) in the light of the potential threats posed by demonstrators’ possible use of highly lethal chemical weapons, how the Government safeguards the safety of frontline police officers and members of the public?

SECRETARY FOR EDUCATION (in Cantonese): President, recently, some universities were damaged or even occupied by protesters. Some even made and used weapons on campus, leaving university campuses in a devastated state and causing multiple injuries. The universities are assessing the damage done to their campuses while some have commenced restoration works. Moreover, some chemicals stored on campus for teaching and research purposes have been stolen. These include some toxic, corrosive, and inflammable chemicals. If outlaws use these items to make weapons, the lives and property of members of the public will be seriously affected with adverse consequences. The cases concerned are extremely serious and have posed dangerous threat to public safety. The universities have reported to the Police and left the cases to the Police for follow-up actions and investigations.

Our reply to Mr CHAN Kin-por’s question is as follows:

(1) The Education Bureau (“EDB”) has been maintaining liaison with the universities in respect of the incidents that have happened on campus in recent months. EDB is aware of the theft of chemicals stored in certain universities, and the universities concerned have reported the matter to the Police for action. It is understood that the dangerous chemicals stolen from the three universities (including the City University of Hong Kong, the Chinese University of Hong Kong (“CUHK”), and the Hong Kong Polytechnic University) include toxic, corrosive, and inflammable items such as concentrated nitric acid and concentrated sulphuric acid. If these chemical substances are mixed with other liquids or mishandled, combustion and explosion might occur. Moreover, the improper use or storage of those substances will cause danger to oneself and others. Universities concerned are still sorting and counting the stolen chemicals, so the relevant quantities cannot be provided for the time being. The Police are actively recovering the missing items and so far no one has been arrested.

According to the Dangerous Goods Ordinance (“DGO”) (Cap. 295), it is an offence for a person to store, convey or use dangerous goods exceeding an exempt quantity without a valid licence. Besides, there have been cases in which people learned to make dangerous items from methods circulated on the Internet. The Police remind the public that manufacturing or conspiring to manufacture explosives is an extremely serious offence. According to section 54 of the Crimes Ordinance (Cap. 200), the maximum penalty upon conviction will be 20 years’ imprisonment. The Police have the confidence and ability to investigate such crime and urge members of the public should refrain from engaging in illegal activities.

(2) The storage of dangerous goods is regulated under DGO, and the classification of dangerous goods and the exempt quantities of different categories of dangerous goods under DGO are stipulated in the Dangerous Goods (Application and Exemption) Regulations (Cap. 295A) and the Dangerous Goods (General) Regulations (Cap. 295B) respectively. A licence issued by the Fire Services Department (“FSD”) under DGO is required for storage of dangerous goods exceeding exempt quantities. Upon receipt of an application for a dangerous goods licence, FSD will conduct a risk assessment based on the actual circumstances of each case and formulate corresponding fire safety requirements for the applicant to comply with. A licence for storage of dangerous goods will be issued to an applicant only after an inspection has been conducted and full compliance with the fire safety requirements is confirmed. FSD will also conduct inspections proactively from time to time. Should there be any violation of the fire safety requirements or conditions of licence, FSD will take relevant enforcement actions in accordance with DGO.

EDB has learnt from the relevant institutions that there are laboratories in individual faculties (such as faculties of science, engineering, and medicine) of the University Grants Committee-funded universities and that the use of different chemicals is required for teaching and research purposes. If the chemicals in the laboratories fall within the definition of dangerous goods under DGO, the universities have established a monitoring mechanism to ensure that the storage and use of dangerous goods on campus meet the requirements of the relevant ordinance. The laboratory management staff of the universities will procure and store the chemicals in accordance with actual teaching and research needs and strictly observe DGO and other relevant fire safety regulations.

In response to the theft of chemicals in universities, all universities have taken prompt action to enhance on-campus security by hiring additional security staff, increasing security patrols, adopting identity verification and registration procedures at campus entrances/exits, and strengthening the security measures for dangerous goods stores. All students and staff of the universities have been informed of the relevant arrangements.

In view of the recent social situation and to further safeguard public safety, FSD has proactively contacted the tertiary institutions to review the situation of the storage of dangerous goods on campus, and to remind the institutions to step up security measures, and report to the Police immediately if any dangerous goods or chemicals were found missing. EDB will also provide universities with appropriate assistance in enhancing their security measures, depending on actual needs.

(3) The mission of FSD is to protect the life and property of the public from fire or other calamity. When facing and handling incidents involving dangerous goods and chemicals, fire personnel will carry out firefighting and rescue operations in accordance with the relevant guidelines. In case unknown chemicals are found during an operation, FSD will perform a risk assessment and take appropriate measures immediately. If necessary, FSD will contact staff of the Government Laboratory and seek their professional advice on the proper handling of chemicals to protect public safety.

The Police attach great importance to the safety of police officers during their execution of duties, and have been proactively taking measures to review the personal protective equipment of front-line police officers from time to time. The Police will also procure or replace suitable equipment as appropriate, so as to meet the actual operational needs and enhance the safety of officers. If members of the public find any dangerous goods, they should seek assistance from the Police as soon as possible. To avoid injury, they should keep an appropriate distance from the dangerous goods and refrain from getting close to or touching them.

MR CHAN KIN-POR (in Cantonese): President, I would like to raise a follow-up question to the Secretary. Apart from universities, many schools are equipped with laboratories. How do the authorities control the quantities of dangerous goods stored in these schools and conduct inspections on them? I do not know if there are any FSD personnel present here today, and if there are, I would also like to ask them how they will determine the quantities that can be stored and conduct inspections.

SECRETARY FOR EDUCATION (in Cantonese): As Mr CHAN said just now, apart from tertiary institutions, secondary schools will use chemicals for teaching purpose, and school laboratories will store some chemicals for experimental purposes. EDB has provided guidelines to schools on the management and use of chemicals stored in schools, as well as the proper keeping of relevant information and the storage quantity. For secondary schools, we have complied a Furniture and Equipment List which sets out the types and quantities of chemicals that are needed by schools. We have also specified in the Handbook on Safety in Science Laboratories the safety measures that should be implemented for the storage and use of such chemicals. The storage quantities of most of these chemicals are lower than the exempt quantities specified in DGO. For example, in the case of nitric acid, which Mr CHAN mentioned in the main question, the exempt quantity is 10 litres. As for secondary schools, the maximum quantity recommended in the Furniture and Equipment List is 2.5 litres for both chemistry laboratory and science laboratory. For most schools, the storage quantities under our requirements are lower than the exempt quantities. Schools have also put in place appropriate mechanisms, such as requiring that ordinary students are not allowed to enter laboratories. For this purpose, school laboratories are equipped with appropriate facilities such as door locks and only designated laboratory technicians, assistants or teachers are allowed entry to obtain the chemicals required and finish the preparations in the laboratories before allowing students to handle them. Therefore, in terms of safety, we have put in place certain regulatory requirements.

MR CHAN KIN-POR (in Cantonese): President, a lot of teachers and students were arrested in the present incident. So, we are concerned that the situation will spread across the education system, and given that there is much public support for these acts, we are not sure to what extent the violence will escalate. Just now the Secretary said that the exempt quantity for concentrated sulphuric acid is 10 litres, while the actual usage in schools is just 2.5 litres. Considering the changing situation and development of Hong Kong, will the Secretary discuss with FSD the feasibility of reducing the exempt quantity, or making it mandatory for schools to report to EDB when the usage reaches a certain level, or strengthening the inspection work?

SECRETARY FOR EDUCATION (in Cantonese): President, as I said just now, the 10-litre threshold is the storage quantity that is exempted under the law. Any person who stores such chemicals in any place in Hong Kong in a quantity exceeding 10 litres is required to apply for a licence from FSD. Meanwhile, the recommended quantity set out in the Furniture and Equipment List for schools is 2.5 litres; in other words, schools are permitted to purchase 2.5 litres of such chemicals for teaching purposes. As Mr CHAN has said, the Bureau can discuss with schools the reduction of the storage quantity in day-to-day operation. After all, a lower storage quantity will be safer to society as well as schools. We will follow up the matter in this regard.

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